Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:19

Sens Dropped in Tampa

It has become pretty standard the last little while but once again the Sens refused to roll over. Tampa Bay is a team that is playoff bound but the young Sens gave them everything they could handle in this one.

In the end it wasn't enough as the Lightning added an empty netter and went on to 5-2 win.

Tampa Bay is a strong team and you had to know they would be hungry for a win against an Ottawa team that has given them trouble recently.

Since the NHL trade deadline, there has been much written and talked about when it comes to the improved play of the Sens. The improvement has been most dramatic on the penalty kill. Ottawa has now killed off 76 of the last 79 opposition power plays, including all four against the Lightning tonight.

Also a positive in this one was the play of Spezza. Scored the Sens first goal of the night and picked up an assist on Michalek's shorthanded goal late in the third period. Also thought Erik Karlsson looked excellent again in over 25 minutes of ice time.

Wanted to thank everyone that took the time to play along in today's contest. The winner will be notified via email after I have a chance to go through the entries. Remember if more than one person has both the exact score and GWG correct, the winner will be determined by a random draw.

I know that late empty-netter by Stamkos broke some hearts!

Another pair of tickets in the Wiser's Suite on the line tomorrow!


Here is how the bottom five look after tonight's action. The Oilers are in action later tonight.

NY Islanders 76 29 35 12 70
Florida 77 29 36 12 70
Ottawa 77 29 38 10 68
Colorado 75 28 39 8 64
Edmonton 75 23 41 11 57
Last modified on Tuesday, 29 March 2011 21:20

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0 #1 landeskog16 2011-03-29 21:22
damm you stamkos and your empty netter or i would have had it
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+1 #2 MattJ 2011-03-29 21:24
So would have I, looks like it would have been a draw, haha. oh well, will try again tommorow
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0 #3 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-29 21:25
It's beginning to look like we may have 20-goal scorer(s) after all. Spezza & Michalek both at 17. It's also quite feasible that we will have none...
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+2 #4 m410 2011-03-29 21:27
Too bad Colorado has that Elliot factor working for them. They are pretty much a lock for that 2 hole. Here's to hoping Florida goes on a winning streak! LOL
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+2 #5 Johne 2011-03-29 21:29
This is exactly the outcome I wanted tonight. I'm not for tanking, but lets not win another game this year.
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+1 #6 landeskog16 2011-03-29 21:33
we need to lose next game
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0 #7 SensChirp 2011-03-29 21:34
More than 20 people had the 5-2 final. Going to come down to the GWG and likely a draw to decide a winner!
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0 #8 Bruin blaster 2011-03-29 21:36
Gryba out for season. Too bad I'd have liked to see him play Boston and Philly.
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-1 #9 Flash 2011-03-29 21:37
Got the score right and the player. Hopefully I've got enough luck left to win the draw...
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0 #10 Johne 2011-03-29 21:38
We need another term from tanking, I don't wanna sink in the standings, I just wanna float where we are.
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0 #11 Johne 2011-03-29 21:39
Also the 67s sure look like they're missing kilrea right now.
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0 #12 MoeDozer 2011-03-29 21:39
Chirp, is it true that Chuck Fletcher (Minnesota GM) was talking face to face with Da Costa today? and apparnetly BM is making a trip to meet him, or planning on it.
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0 #13 DrSens 2011-03-29 21:41
Whats the word on Da Costa. Are going to have to wait until tomorrow to find out where he signed?
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+1 #14 SensChirp 2011-03-29 21:41
Yea I would expect we will hear something tomorrow. Going to try and get an update early tomorrow.
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0 #15 SensChirp 2011-03-29 21:44
Quoting Flash:
Got the score right and the player. Hopefully I've got enough luck left to win the draw...

Very impressive. Looked through the emails and it would appear that four people had the exact score and the GWG correct.

On to the draw. Winner will be notified via email. If you don't win, be sure to check back tomorrow for another chance !
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+1 #16 MacK 2011-03-29 21:45
Am I the only one that feels like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when the sens are on the ice? I'm so torn! I literally caught myself thinking, "oh crap, YES! Bummer they scored on McBackup...RIGH T ON!...awwww man....*slow smile*." And then when Michalek got the shorty I cheered and then before I knew it, fear kicked in as I pictured us tying it up and winning it in the shootout! man oh man....
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0 #17 Johne 2011-03-29 21:48
MikeMcMahonET Mike McMahon
Stephane Da Costa had a face to face meeting with Minnesota today. Other teams possibly as well. Decision likely Wed or Thurs I'm told
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0 #18 Johne 2011-03-29 21:50
This Mike McMahon guy thinks Florida is the front runner with Sens close behind. Looks like the kid really wants to step in and play if he's considering Florida.
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0 #19 Demers19 2011-03-29 22:30
I know he's injury prone but I'd take a chance on Simon Gagné next year at a low cost ? Pretty sure he's UFA and I think he has good leadership abillities for the kids and he sure knows how to play hockey he's fast and good
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+4 #20 sensarmy 2011-03-29 22:43
I like Gagne too. Just the type of goal scorer the "new and improved" (hopefully?) Spezz could use on his wing. That would let us move Michalek down to the 2nd where he could excel playing weaker D pairings
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+1 #21 T K 2011-03-29 22:54
Chirp, no sleep for you til the great unwashed masses get positive DaCosta news!
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+2 #22 MacK 2011-03-29 22:55
I'm not sure we need another injury prone guy on our team in Gagne. He's been out roughly 25% of the past few seasons.
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0 #23 Demers19 2011-03-29 23:43
Quoting SensibleMac:
I'm not sure we need another injury prone guy on our team in Gagne. He's been out roughly 25% of the past few seasons.


Yeah that's the problem and it's a big IF but IF he could be healthy and not too expensive I'd love him on our team, the guy's a good hockey player when he's able to play
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0 #24 MacK 2011-03-30 00:04
Quoting Demers19:
Yeah that's the problem and it's a big IF but IF he could be healthy and not too expensive I'd love him on our team, the guy's a good hockey player when he's able to play



Ok, I can appreciate that... I guess I'm just really excited about giving our up and comers a chance to shine. Mind you, the kids would still get a chance if Gagne couldn't stay healthy.
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0 #25 INurHome 2011-03-30 00:09
I hate to look ahead like this but Thursday's game IS the game of the season!!
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+1 #26 Prime 2011-03-30 06:28
Saturday is the game of the season! When the Sens put the final nail in the Leafs coffin!!!
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+1 #27 SensChirp 2011-03-30 06:37
Quoting Prime:
Saturday is the game of the season! When the Sens put the final nail in the Leafs coffin!!!

Sure hope so! Going to be in Toronto for the Jays home opener this weekend. Would love to have my Sens jersey on in a bar in TO when Ottawa officially ends the Leafs season.
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+1 #28 my2sens 2011-03-30 07:30
Why does Edmonton have to suck so much!? Can't they win at least one!?
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-1 #29 oakster15 2011-03-30 08:04
Looks like Da Costa is going to make his decision today. Apparently its between Ottawa and Minnesota. Maybe a plus for Ottawa is its close proximity to Quebec seeing as Da Costa is french? I'd like to think our future is brighter than Minnesotas too so i'd say Ottawa has the upper hand
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0 #30 my2sens 2011-03-30 08:19
Quoting oakster15:
Looks like Da Costa is going to make his decision today. Apparently its between Ottawa and Minnesota. Maybe a plus for Ottawa is its close proximity to Quebec seeing as Da Costa is french? I'd like to think our future is brighter than Minnesotas too so i'd say Ottawa has the upper hand


Just an FYI - he was born in Paris, France....

I haven't followed this news, could anyone fill me on his qualities and what he could bring to the club?
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0 #31 Timic 2011-03-30 08:20
Honestly I thought Kuba was the Sens second best player tonight - both sides of the ice.
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0 #32 SensChirp 2011-03-30 09:02
Nothing new on Da Costa this morning. Decision is expected today though and Ottawa is among the front runners.
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+1 #33 JRMcPeeWee 2011-03-30 09:51
Kuba makes me weep
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+3 #34 Demers19 2011-03-30 09:52
Quoting SensChirp:
Nothing new on Da Costa this morning. Decision is expected today though and Ottawa is among the front runners.


Hey Chirp, David Rundblad won the award of the best defenseman in Sweden ! good job by him
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0 #35 SensChirp 2011-03-30 10:03
Quoting Demers19:
Quoting SensChirp:
Nothing new on Da Costa this morning. Decision is expected today though and Ottawa is among the front runners.


Hey Chirp, David Rundblad won the award of the best defenseman in Sweden ! good job by him

Saw that! Can't wait to see that kid in Ottawa next season.
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0 #36 Demers19 2011-03-30 10:10
Cant wait either, the kid looks like he could be better than Karlsson at some point, saw highlights of him, sure it is in Sweden but he hits like Volchenkov ahah !!
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+3 #37 TrueSensFan 2011-03-30 10:17
Don't wanna get my hopes up too much but when I think of Rundblad, I think about what Karlsson would be if he was a bit taller, weighed 30 more pounds and could hit with a bit of a mean streak in him
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0 #38 Johne 2011-03-30 10:24
http://twitter.com/MikeMcMahonET - Stephane Da Costa attended last night's Maple Leafs-Sabres game at ACC. Florida, Ottawa, Minnesota still considered front-runners.
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0 #39 Johne 2011-03-30 10:26
Quoting Demers19:
Cant wait either, the kid looks like he could be better than Karlsson at some point, saw highlights of him, sure it is in Sweden but he hits like Volchenkov ahah !!


Just hope his body can hold up hitting like that. Volchenkov is a unique player in the sense that he's had very few injuries for the style he plays.
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0 #40 SensChirp 2011-03-30 10:27
At this point I would assume that offers have been submitted and we are just waiting on word from the Da Costa camp. Seems to be a consensus that an announcement comes today.
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0 #41 Johne 2011-03-30 10:29
I'll be pretty disappointed if we don't land Da Costa, but the fact is I don't even know anything about the kid hahah.
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0 #42 A Train 2011-03-30 10:35
Don't know that much about Da Costa other than what I read here. He's a centre, right? How far away is he from cracking an NHL roster?
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0 #43 SensChirp 2011-03-30 10:39
Quoting A Train:
Don't know that much about Da Costa other than what I read here. He's a centre, right? How far away is he from cracking an NHL roster?

He would play this season. And then be given every chance to make the team out of camp next year.
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0 #44 Demers19 2011-03-30 10:40
Quoting Johne:


Just hope his body can hold up hitting like that. Volchenkov is a unique player in the sense that he's had very few injuries for the style he plays.



Yeah I know but I'll wait and see cause I don't think Rundblad will be able to hit like that at the NHL level
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0 #45 Johne 2011-03-30 10:42
http://twitter.com/MikeMcMahonET - Da Costa in meetings/confer ence calls ALL day yesterday. Decision could come today. All offering same contract Now it's recruiting like NCAA

So everyone is offering the same contract, just a matter of who can convince him that he will play the most with a club.
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0 #46 Tookie 2011-03-30 10:49
RE: Da Costa

I'll admit I dont know much about him either? what type of player is he? is he regarded as being a 3rd line player or a legit top 6 player? We need a 2nd line C, do you think he could fill that position better than RNH? to who do you compare his ceiling to?
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+2 #47 Johne 2011-03-30 10:52
Here are some scouting reports I've found:

At 5-foot-11, 180-pounds, Da Costa isn’t overly big, but he more than makes up for it with his hockey smarts, vision, and pure goal scoring ability. He is a great skater, very elusive, has outstanding puckhandling ability, a good shot, and is a brilliant playmaker. The NHL quickly came knocking after his electric debut, scoring 5 goals in his first home game with Merrimack, but the youngster has opted to play at least one more year with the Warriors program.
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+2 #48 Johne 2011-03-30 10:53
Da Costa is a dynamic 5'11/180 lbs center that possesses tremendous hockey sense with equally good vision, hands and creativity. And it is what he does with those attributes that has gotten so much attention from the NHL. Da Costa possesses an uncanny ability to find and utilize open patches of ice to consistently create smart, effective plays. He follows plays exceedingly well and can make plays in transition. He also possesses great finishing ability as well. While not lightning fast, Da Costa does possess some good speed and does a good job of consistently keeping his feet moving. He maintains very good balance on his skates and despite being a smaller player uses his body quite well in protecting the puck. Another of Da Costa's notable assets is his blistering shot. He is not a particularly physical player, but does play with some competitive edge to his game.
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+2 #49 Johne 2011-03-30 10:54
Excellent vision, great passer, great hands, not the best skater but gets in and out of traffic with the best of 'em. Uses his body well in the corners and on the wall to protect the puck. He's definitely a center but needs some work in the circle. Despite what you might hear he's an excellent penalty killer, has amazing anticipation when reading other players, gets his stick in the way of passes a lot. Runs the power play with ease and has a seeing eye shot.
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0 #50 Johne 2011-03-30 10:55
I think he could be a 2nd line center for us easily if those scouting reports equate to the NHL level at all.
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-1 #51 Johne 2011-03-30 11:08
http://twitter.com/MikeMcMahonET - According to a source, Philadelphia is out of the Da Costa sweepstakes and Minnesota Wild have emerged as the frontrunner
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0 #52 oakster15 2011-03-30 11:21
I'm not sure why he would choose minnisota over Ottawa. Ottawa home to many french speaking people and Quebec which you would think would make him feel more comfortable/at home? also given our current injury/rebuild situation he would be given instant game time. hmm
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+2 #53 MoeDozer 2011-03-30 11:26
@oakster15 i hope you realise that he is from france. Quebec != France. im sorry i dont mean to be saying it in disrespect just getting annoying that multiple people have used that as a reason for him to chose ottawa. if you search da costa in interviews, he speaks english perfectly fine with no trouble. and he would have top 6 ice time on both ottawa or minni. look at minni and their top 6 (havlat,koivu,b runette, cullen.. and da costa can easily fit in that) altho i know he would fit the same/better here
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+2 #54 SensChirp 2011-03-30 11:32
Not hearing anything that suggests Ottawa is out of the running at this point. McMahon has been all over this from the get go though.

Disappointing if he ends up in Minny.
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0 #55 Johne 2011-03-30 11:42
I guess it boils down to if he likes Fletcher or Murray more. Whoever said that personality has no impact when it comes to GMing, now would be a good time to try and convince me that it doesn't cause this all boils down to personality when everyone has the same contract offer on the table. This is how recruiting works in the college world. If our GM was Pmac, Da Costa would be in a sens uni right now.
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-1 #56 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-30 11:50
Quoting Johne:
I guess it boils down to if he likes Fletcher or Murray more...If our GM was Pmac, Da Costa would be in a sens uni right now.


Offence intended - that was the dumbest post I've seen all day. There's absolutely no reason for you to think it "boils down to" who is the more affable GM. Even if the offers are the same, there are a million other reason to pick a team/city... why on earth are you convinced it boils down to "GM personality"? He could like Fletcher more and still sign in Ottawa (or vice versa) because he likes the city better.

Moreover, it's not like the players even see the GM too often. Gm directs the franchise, but a coach interacts with and affects players much more.

Anyway, glad you clearly have a line inside DaCosta's head to know what he's thinking and how it "boils down".
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0 #57 Johne 2011-03-30 11:52
I'd really like to know what he loves so much about Minny. Koivu is signed longer than Spezza so being top line center can't be a pipe dream there, I think he's got his options of being a 2nd line center in Ott or Min, I guess he might be weighing his winger options?
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+2 #58 SensChirp 2011-03-30 11:53
Going to do another contest but it won't be until later on this afternoon. Busy day. Hoping that news of the Da Costa signing breaks later today as well.
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+2 #59 Johne 2011-03-30 12:05
@Dorkiewicz

Lets say you two job offers, both offer the same pay/benifits, you're going to go with the job that you like the interviewer more. Personality goes a long way and if you don't think it does, you must have none - offense intended.
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-1 #60 meadowdog 2011-03-30 12:05
I hope we sign De Costa but I'm a little leery about all the hype. Fabian Brunnstrom, Jonas Gustavsson, Tyler Bozek and Christian Hanson were all highly-hyped non drafted players who haven't exactly set the league on fire. If he's signed to a two-way contract the way Bobby Butler was then there's really no down side but we should try to keep our expectations realistic.
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+2 #61 Johne 2011-03-30 12:08
Quoting meadowdog:
I hope we sign De Costa but I'm a little leery about all the hype. Fabian Brunnstrom, Jonas Gustavsson, Tyler Bozek and Christian Hanson were all highly-hyped non drafted players who haven't exactly set the league on fire. If he's signed to a two-way contract the way Bobby Butler was then there's really no down side to signing him but we should try to keep our expectations realistic.


I agree to some extent, there are plenty of good college ufa signings that work out great, but I'd rather be more optimistic than pessimistic. Especially with the year we've had and the players we've lost.
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-1 #62 Sensnation 2011-03-30 12:18
Quoting oakster15:
I'm not sure why he would choose minnisota over Ottawa. Ottawa home to many french speaking people and Quebec which you would think would make him feel more comfortable/at home? also given our current injury/rebuild situation he would be given instant game time. hmm


Quebec french is looked down on in France as an uneducated slang version of their language, not really a great selling point.

Hopefully he sees that Ottawa is poised to be in a great position for the prime of his career and that it is a high quality organization to be a part of.

On another note what is going on with Winchester ... he's looking like more Cody Bass than Chris Kelly these days.
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+2 #63 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-30 12:24
Quoting JABSmilez:


Quebec french is looked down on in France as an uneducated slang version of their language, not really a great selling point.


So Da Costa is a bigot? Pretty big generalization of the people of France right there.

Quoting JABSmilez:


On another note what is going on with Winchester ... he's looking like more Cody Bass than Chris Kelly these days.


Likely playing hurt. That seems to be the stock answer when people are playing poorly in Ottawa.
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-1 #64 THEBLACKTERROR 2011-03-30 12:38
Quoting John Q. Spartan:


So Da Costa is a bigot? Pretty big generalization of the people of France right there.


Bigot or no bigot, it is an accurate statement that Quebec French is regarded in Europe as a different language that Parisian French. The fact that Ottawa is attached to Quebec is not likely to be a deciding factor in this young man's decision.

I honestly can't see the difference between the two situations.

Tax laws are quite different in the US though, so that salary translates to more actual money in the US than it does in Canada.

I'm hoping he'll sign in Ottawa too, but he is just a prospect, so I won't be disappointed if he doesn't UNLESS he goes to MIN and lights it up.
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0 #65 Smash_88 2011-03-30 12:52
Quoting THEBLACKTERROR:
Quoting John Q. Spartan:


So Da Costa is a bigot? Pretty big generalization of the people of France right there.


Bigot or no bigot, it is an accurate statement that Quebec French is regarded in Europe as a different language that Parisian French. The fact that Ottawa is attached to Quebec is not likely to be a deciding factor in this young man's decision.

I honestly can't see the difference between the two situations.


Well there is quite a difference in thinking languages are "different" vs an "uneducated slang version that's looked down upon"

I will agree though that language will have no bearing whatsoever to him choosing which team he will go to.. He wouldn't have went and played for an American college if language was an issue...
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0 #66 Johne 2011-03-30 12:56
I think Quebec would be more of a nostalgia factor and Ottawa is far more of a beautiful city than St Paul.
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-1 #67 Sensnation 2011-03-30 12:59
[quote name="John Q. Spartan"
So Da Costa is a bigot? Pretty big generalization of the people of France right there.


Not at all what I said. Quebec French is just not as much of a point of attraction to France french speakers as it was being made out to be above. But yes, I lived in France several years and they are not fans of the Quebec french as a whole.
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-1 #68 MoeDozer 2011-03-30 13:02
Chirp, is there any word on other NCAA free agents that BM might be interested in? because if in BM's shoes. i would have a plan B to get another forward if we can not get Da Costa
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0 #69 Sandy 2011-03-30 13:04
Maybe it's time that Bobby Butler gives him a call.
Apparently he skated with Da Costa last summer.

Ottawa has a lot of college kids in their lineup that are being given a fair chance.

A lot more space is available in Ottawa's lineup next season than Minnesota's... but will he look at what team is closer to succeeding?
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-2 #70 Johne 2011-03-30 13:28
@Sandy

if success is a factor, why is Florida even mentioned? I cant think of any team thats further from success.
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+1 #71 Tookie 2011-03-30 13:48
@ Johne

Its mentioned and in the race because its Florida!!! Sunny beaches, babes and clubs!!

Ottawa has no nightlife and is boring as hell. Minny is probably the front runner as its also a great place to be in, St.Paul is magnificient!
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-2 #72 rsidoli 2011-03-30 14:10
hopefully de costa comes to ottawa he could be our second line center for the rest of the year and see what we get at the draft i think otawwa is moving in the right direction but i would highly suggest that we get rid of mcbackup and get a real back up
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-2 #73 jakester 2011-03-30 14:20
C'mon Pierre McGuire is there a bigger apple polisher out there than him. He is so willing to suck what he can to get ahead its disgusting. I'm much more impressed with Bryan Murray than him. Murray will get Da Costa signed - Pierre Dorion must be with him and he's a good talker. Have faith. If not lets draft well - 7 picks top 63 (if Nash advances past 2nd round).
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0 #74 Gonzolo 2011-03-30 14:20
@Jabs

Parisiens are indignant about the irreverent french spoken everywhere outside of Paris.

The fact that there are two languages/cultu res that border in the area should appeal to a European-born player.

Just saying, it can't hurt...
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+2 #75 TrueSensFan 2011-03-30 14:31
No Offense intended to anyone but this conversation is borderline stupid.

At least on this board and in this situation, it really is irrelevant.

If someone here can read his mind or if he actually said the french thing mattered at any point in any interview then fine but neither of those things are happening so why argue over ridiculous speculation.
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0 #76 aligator 2011-03-30 14:32
I believe the conditional Nashville pick is in 2012.
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-1 #77 SensChirp 2011-03-30 14:38
Sounds like the Sens are just waiting right now. It has been said before but every team has made similar offers. Up to the Da Costa camp to decide the best fit.
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-1 #78 jakester 2011-03-30 14:45
R u sure Gator?
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0 #79 rsidoli 2011-03-30 14:53
chirp have you thought of making a constant blog kinda like twitter of facebook so that people could be in constant discussion
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0 #80 Johne 2011-03-30 14:55
Nashville Predators have acquired center Mike Fisher from the Ottawa Senators, for their 1st-round draft pick this summer, and a conditional pick*** in 2012.
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-1 #81 Sandy 2011-03-30 15:02
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Johne

Its mentioned and in the race because its Florida!!! Sunny beaches, babes and clubs!!

Ottawa has no nightlife and is boring as hell. Minny is probably the front runner as its also a great place to be in, St.Paul is magnificient!


Sorry Ottawa does have a night life -- it's not that the saidewalks are rolled up at night here...
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0 #82 Johne 2011-03-30 15:12
@Sandy

I agree

I love the marketplace, not exactly sure when people talk about lack of nightlife, do you need a choice of 30 clubs to go to? Most people past the age of 21 stop clubbing and the bars in Ottawa I find to be pretty nice.
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0 #83 Tookie 2011-03-30 15:14
@ Sandy

Just saying there isnt much to do for a single guy between 18-25. Once you hit 2-3 bars in Ottawa, you pretty much seen them all. Also we dont have the "finer" attractions hockey players tend to visit.

But im sure he'll decide on what team is more competitive and thats the Wild.
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0 #84 SensChirp 2011-03-30 15:14
Quoting rsidoli:
chirp have you thought of making a constant blog kinda like twitter of facebook so that people could be in constant discussion

Not sure what you mean? That sort of what the comment section is right? Also have the forum and a Twitter and Facebook account. SensChirp is everywhere haha
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0 #85 SensChirp 2011-03-30 15:15
Oh and keep an eye out for a new contest this evening. Been a busy day but I should have time to put something up around the dinner hour.

Thanks for your patience.
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+1 #86 Johne 2011-03-30 15:16
@Chirp

I think what that poster means is realtime comments without having to refresh.
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0 #87 SensChirp 2011-03-30 15:23
Chat room type thing, eh? Yea that could be an option. I want to have regular live blogs during games next season for sure. Just a little worried about fragmenting the comments too much. Forum has already caused a little bit of that.
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0 #88 TrueSensFan 2011-03-30 15:28
^^^^Have to agree with ya Chirp

belong to another forum I frequent and we added a chat feature only to have the traffic in the forum etc. take a huge hit

Live blog for games etc is a cool idea but I think the persistent chat should be left out.
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0 #89 SensChirp 2011-03-30 15:30
It's an interesting concept for sure but I think it would work better if it was the only option. I like the forum because it is a little more targeted conversations than you see in a comment thread.

It also means that on days like today, when I'm a little late getting a post up, the discussion can carry on without me.
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0 #90 conor smythe 2011-03-30 15:31
Chirp,

Any update on Gonchar?

If for some reason its serious and he's forced to retire, would Ottawa still be on the hook for his salary or can we put him on LTIR for the rest of his contract?
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0 #91 Tookie 2011-03-30 15:39
@ Conor

•When a player aged 35 or older signs a multi-year contract, his average salary is counted against the team's salary cap during every year of the contract, even if the player retires before the contract is up.
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0 #92 aligator 2011-03-30 15:42
I doubt that it's that serious.......A lfredsson, however, is another matter. I think there is a better than even chance he is done.
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0 #93 conor smythe 2011-03-30 15:48
tookie

Ya, I read that too, I was just hoping there was a way around it if the retirement was injury related (insurance pays the contract, no cap hit- in a perfect world)
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0 #94 aligator 2011-03-30 15:49
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Conor

•When a player aged 35 or older signs a multi-year contract, his average salary is counted against the team's salary cap during every year of the contract, even if the player retires before the contract is up.


That's correct but I believe you can get around it with LTIR. It would require league sanctioned docs exam, of course. Correct me nicely if I' wrong but I think LTIR comes off cap. Just off the top of my head
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0 #95 Frootmig 2011-03-30 15:51
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Conor

•When a player aged 35 or older signs a multi-year contract, his average salary is counted against the team's salary cap during every year of the contract, even if the player retires before the contract is up.

New Jersey has used LTIR (with Mogilny I think) in the past to reduce the salary cap impact of a 35+ contract for a player who's career ended "early" with injury. The downside is that they still had to pay him while on LTIR.

As cap won't be our problem for the next bit, I would think the Sens would be inclined to let such a player retire, taking the cap hit, but saving on real money.
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0 #96 aligator 2011-03-30 15:55
Agreed, but would the player do that?
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0 #97 Frootmig 2011-03-30 15:55
Quoting aligator:
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Conor

•When a player aged 35 or older signs a multi-year contract, his average salary is counted against the team's salary cap during every year of the contract, even if the player retires before the contract is up.


That's correct but I believe you can get around it with LTIR. It would require league sanctioned docs exam, of course. Correct me nicely if I' wrong but I think LTIR comes off cap. Just off the top of my head

Almost ... LTIR doesn't come off the cap ... but you are permitted to overspend because of players on LTIR.
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0 #98 Yann 2011-03-30 16:05
Hope we sign C Stephane DaCosta, but if it doesn't happend then here are other UFA NCAA free agent.


C Andy Miele - Miami
L Justin Fontaine - Minn Duluth
G Keith Kincald - Union College
G John Muse - Boston College
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0 #99 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-30 16:15
@ Johne & Sandy

I don't think Ottawa is boring myself, but when people level the charge, they have a point. Think of Ottawa as the opposite of a Miami or NYC. It's relatively small.

I don't mind the market, you can have a good time there, but ask a newly-rich, young, horny NHL player where he'd rather blow a shitload of $ on a night out and Ottawa is nowhere near the top of the list.

Like the idea of realtime comments without refreshing.

Still would love to see the latest article in full as the homepage, not to mention an entry by this imaginary Yost character ;D
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+1 #100 Frootmig 2011-03-30 16:29
Quoting Dorkiewicz:
@ Johne & Sandy

I don't think Ottawa is boring myself, but when people level the charge, they have a point. Think of Ottawa as the opposite of a Miami or NYC. It's relatively small.

I don't mind the market, you can have a good time there, but ask a newly-rich, young, horny NHL player where he'd rather blow a shitload of $ on a night out and Ottawa is nowhere near the top of the list.

Like the idea of realtime comments without refreshing.

Still would love to see the latest article in full as the homepage, not to mention an entry by this imaginary Yost character ;D

If the newly-rich, young, horny NHL player's primary concern is blowing a shitload of $ on a night out ... the Sens should probably be thankful that that kind of player doesn't want to be in Ottawa. I'd rather see professionals playing for the Sens ... not party animals.
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+1 #101 SensChirp 2011-03-30 16:31
Hope to have that contest up tonight but I'm just waiting for a resolution on Da Costa. Consensus seemed to be it was coming down today.
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0 #102 billlin 2011-03-30 16:38
I wonder what the odds are that Da Costa signs with Ottawa...
I always hear that Minnesota, Florida and Ottawa are all very likely.
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0 #103 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-30 16:38
@ Frootmig

I thought that was implicit in what I said...

Just pointing out... some players sign based on a city, other sign based on a team. Usually youth want to live in a 'fun' city - that doesn't mean they're irresponsible or don't want to win. Players have to have a very specific set of desires to come to Ottawa and those desires likely don't include a vibrant-at-all- hours city. This all seems pretty commonsense to me.

I don't think any fan would argue that they want the next Emery-type problem on their hands.
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0 #104 Demers19 2011-03-30 16:42
Backdoorpass on Twitter is saying that he doubts we'll sign Da Costa, take it for what it's worth but this guy knows a lot of things and didn't missed too often on his predictions
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0 #105 SensChirp 2011-03-30 16:45
Quoting Demers19:
Backdoorpass on Twitter is saying that he doubts we'll sign Da Costa, take it for what it's worth but this guy knows a lot of things and didn't missed too often on his predictions

Saw that. Sens have made their pitch. Now just waiting for his decision.
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+1 #106 aligator 2011-03-30 16:56
Move on.
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0 #107 Johne 2011-03-30 17:43
KatieStrangNYI Katie Strang
Ottawa appears to be frontrunner for Merrimack U's Stephane Da Costa but #Isles being "considered" http://tinyurl.com/5tnmale
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0 #108 Johne 2011-03-30 17:50
http://twitter.com/MikeMcMahonET - Any reports that Stephane Da Costa has signed at this point is FALSE. Seems to be down to OTT, MIN and FLA. Decision could come any time
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0 #109 Johne 2011-03-30 17:53
This reminds me of how on edge I was when Heatley's deadline came and went. LETS GO DA COSTA!
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0 #110 C-Mac 2011-03-30 18:00
Hey Chirp.

Forgive me if this is a dumb question but if we sign de costa, would it be a 2 way deal like Butler got or a 1 way like we gave Winchester? I am pretty sure both guys were signed in similar situations to de costa's.
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+1 #111 Gramps 2011-03-30 18:07
Interesting that while Rundblad is the best DMan award winner Larsson is playing more minutes per game during the playoffs on the same team.
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0 #112 yawnzzz 2011-03-30 18:14
Im sure in true sens letdown-fashion we will finish 6th last lol
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0 #113 Johne 2011-03-30 18:25
http://twitter.com/mirtle - Sounds like Stephane Da Costa sweepstakes will end early tomorrow. Leafs long shots to get him. Sens, Wild, Panthers among teams in running.
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0 #114 Rover 2011-03-30 18:26
What would make the Da Costa sweepstakes more exciting would be if it were only FLA and OTT in the running and the winner of tomorrow's game got him as a consolation prize for dropping in draft order
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0 #115 army 2011-03-30 18:26
Didn't the sens put jason smith on LTIR for the second year of his contract to grt his cap hit off the books?
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0 #116 army 2011-03-30 18:31
Quoting NothingWorseThan ADaigleNurse:
What would make the Da Costa sweepstakes more exciting would be if it were only FLA and OTT in the running and the winner of tomorrow's game got him as a consolation prize for dropping in draft order


Orr we end up signing him and he plays against Florida and scores a hat trick ;) haha its nice tondream
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0 #117 C-Mac 2011-03-30 18:34
or he signs for FLA and gets a Hatty... Thanks for the Pick Stephane!
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+1 #118 Rover 2011-03-30 18:39
OR... He signs with us but doesn't show up until the toronto game and then ends their season with a hatty
that would really rub it in
oh yeah and of course we lose to FLA cause he's not there yet
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0 #119 rsidoli 2011-03-30 23:52
thanks johne thats what i ment a chat room didnt really explain it that well ......... but ya something that keeps us chatting on this website
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