Bryan Murray was just on Team 1200. Here is a quick recap of what the Sens GM had to say with the deadline just a couple days away.
He didn't say a whole lot but he did confirm what we already know. The Senators are looking for another defenceman heading into the deadline and he's thinking a 5/6 defenceman would be ideal. Mostly looking for another body to add depth heading down the stretch.
Murray said the Senators did have an interest in Leopold but felt the asking price was a little too high. Murray mentioned that there are some players they may consider moving but it all depends on what they are getting back.
Murray spoke about Volchenkov and said they have made zero progress in negotiations. He will listen to trade offers in the next couple of days. Very surprising but understandable.
Should be a very interesting couple of days...
113 comments:
Man, I can't picture Volchenkov anywhere else but in Ottawa. That would be extremely heartbreaking if he were to be traded, but I understand Murray can't risk losing him for nothing in the summer.
Hopefully if we do trade him we get at least an NHL ready top 4 Dman and potential top 6 forward plus a pick.
This team doesnt seem to have any luck with Russians, I was hopeing Volchenkov would be different.
Damn.
As much as I love the A-Train, if he is asking for much more than 3.5 a season then Murray needs to trade him.
At a push I could live with 3.75.
crap.
this is bad.
Murray won't trade him even if he can't get him signed because he knows how badly we need him for the playoffs.
blah - feel like I've been punched in the nuts.
A 2nd for Leopold was too high ... he's what a -7 (I know, bad team)? Also, as sorry as I would be to see Volchenkov go, if the price is too high then now is the time to trade him. He'd be a key piece to a cup run for someone. Although he was exposed somewhat during the Olympics - to pure speed. I think we could get a replacement D plus a nice prospect/high pick in return. I wouldn't pay $4-5M for a D man unless it was Shae Weber or a Drew Doughty.
Chirp, who would you rather add:
Hamhuis, Seidenberg, Zidlicky or Ward?
Any bets on him trading Volch for Aaron freaking Ward and going:
"Aaron's a good character guy, he's great in the room, he's a good guy. He's won the Cup several times, we feel he can get far in the playoffs."
Shades of Jason Smith!!!
JUST SIGN ANTON. We have a half-dozen scrubs at forward we can move for cap space in the off-season. Kelly, Ruutu, Neil etc...are infinitely more replaceable than Anton. Well, maybe not Neil because he IS great off the ice...but DAMN.
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
why volchie why
yes I think we all feel the same about Volchenkov he is asking way to much he has to go now. DAM
You know what you guys sit here and rant
On how volch is not replacable on this team but he is
The teams that are gonna call for him are gonna have to give something back
I don't think he is even worth 3.5 not even close
Chris phillips is the guy always in position I've seen so many timesvolch outta place phillips makes him good
Shot blockers are a dime a dozen trade him now go murray do it
Murray needs to get something for this guy.... Either sign him or trade him either way is fine with me... $4mil is too much to pay a shut down dman...
If Murray has to trade Volchenkov I would like to see Murray trade Vochenkov either to Washington or chicago.
I would like to see the deals look like this.
1.to:Washington Capitals
Vochenkov
To:Ottawa Senators
Eric Fehr
John Carlson
2.
To:Chicago Blackhawks
Volchenkov
To:Ottawa Senators
Andrew Ladd
1st round pick
Or if Murray is looking to trade players I would like to see Murray trade Winchester.
I Would like to see Murray trade.
To:Chicago Blackhawks
Jesse Winchester
3rd draft pick
To:Ottawa Senators
Andrew Ladd
If Murray is going to trade players for players I would like to see Murray get Brent Burns or Zidlicky or Dan Hamius or Robdias.
The two guys that I would like to see Murray get one of them is Andy Sutton or Kurtis Foster.
I would like to see Murray get Colby Armstrong.
Maybe they should just sign him for what he wants then trade him in the summer.
I love Volchenkov but anyone who thinks he's worth more than 3 mil a season should give their head a shake. If he wants more than that, I say move him while you can get value in return.
I do not believe this team is good enough to make a run at the Cup this year. If we can get good assets for A-Train then do it. Build a contender for years to come...
I'll be sad to see him go.
However he is NOT worth 3.25 - 3.5 +
,as well this organization will not let players go for 'nothing' any longer, see Chara, Havlat, Redden.
Well, not if they want to keep their jobs.
I expect a good return, and won't be disappointed if its only players and picks that can help us out later on.
There are a number of serviceable D men available.
INurHome
Pretty sure I called this in the last post...
Not much to say, the writing's been on the wall forever. He probably wants Komisarek money.
Bring in some pieces now Murray and all is well. I love A-Train, always have, but we can't overpay him just to keep him...look at the Vernon Wells contract with the blue jays.
Volchenkov WILL be worth upwards of 3.5. He will get 4+ on the market. He loves it here in Ottawa and he is a fantastic guy off the ice, just charming.
His skills ON the ice are nigh-irreplaceable. This is a guy that cuts 7-10 scoring opportunities per game, is rarely out of position and occasionally tallies points as well. SIgn him for 4-5 years for 3.5-4.0, try for a staggered cap hit as well.
Wondering if Murray is playing games by pressuring Volchenkov to accept his offer with that comment.
@ Anon 4:05:
Do you not get tired of Copy-Pasting the exact same comment on every entry thread?
We get it: You (obsessively) like Ladd, Armstrong, and Fehr.
Please stop wasting our time.
WE NEED 2 SIGN VOLCHIE!!!!!
FML, i knew this would happen, trade volch to chicago for hjalmerson and ladd.
If he isn't signed, he will be traded. That is a fact.
I believe he will get a last minute deal signed by the deadline, just like the KUBA deal.
But from what I have heard from a friend who works for the Sens, he is a goner if he doesn't sign and Murray has also hinted at that to his agent.
My opinion: Guys like Ward, Hamhuis, Z.Michalek can replace this guy. Two of them will be UFA's come the summer.
I dont think he is worth any more than 3mil to be honest. He blocks a lot of shots, but D-Men with little point production can't be paid big amounts of $$
If he's asking high trade him.
Tough call but it has to be done.
Who has a puck mover they're willing to part with for a shot blocker?
The agent waited 2 weeks to "show the offer the Volchie in person", supposedly. Sounds like a delay tactic to me to put pressure on BM to sign him quickly in 3 days.
Volchie can't want to stay in Ott that much if he knows his agent has an offer in-hand and agrees to wait until 3 days before the trade deadline to look at it.
Can't lose him for nothing, so best offer wins.
Volchie and Kelly for Jack Johnson.
PL
It's all BS - I bet Murray is close (but maybe working to see if he can get him a little cheaper) and will sign him on deadline day. Standard Murray tactics - keep expectations low for fans.
Or maybe I'm just in denial.
Volchenkov has been a great player and fan favourite in Ottawa, everybody knows that. He took a discount on his last contract and probably wants full value this time. I LOVE Volchenkov and can't blame him for looking for a big pay day when he sees what some chumps are getting. He is such a hard worker and great guy so he deserves to at least test the open market and if he wants, re-sign with Ottawa. I would not be surprised if he tests the market and tells Murray to match his best offer and then he will stay. It would cost us a lot of money for that but he does deserve that respect with all that he has given to this organization.
Go Sens Go...
Re-sign Vochie Re-Sign!!!!
Riaz
Trade him to Nashville
Preds: Volchenkov, Fisher and 1st (7.2M)
Sens: Weber, Legwand (9M)
Volchenkov hasnt been his usual self the last little while
I am now officially confused about the Cullen deal. The team needed more help on D than in the forward ranks even with Volchenkov and Picard on the team. With Picard gone and Volchenkov traded (if it does indeed happen) how many defenders and of what quality is Murray expecting to net before the deadline exactly?
I don't necessarily expect the Sens to be a major challenger either, but then if we're going into the playoffs with low expectations it makes no sense to trade for a rental either.
"My opinion: Guys like Ward, Hamhuis, Z.Michalek can replace this guy. Two of them will be UFA's come the summer."
Ward is beyond terrible now. He can't initiate a breakout, he takes intereferenc/holding penalties, can't keep up with the play and turns over the puck to more mobile players. Even our youngest, most inexperienced D-man brings more to the table than Aaron Ward. He's done.
Zbinek Michalek would be nice. He's a Volch-lite and maybe playing with his brother (?) would open up some offensive pizzazz.
Hamhuis would be decent as well, very strong in his own end.
Either way...don't foul this up Bryan, because trading Volch WILL alter the team chemistry you are so high on.
Karlsson - Carkner
Kuba - Lee/Campoli
Phillips - Smith/Volch replacement (?)
Damn, that D looks like an invitation to crash into our zone.
Guess I'm calling in sick again Wednesday...
I really think he is going to end up testing the UFA market and sign with Washington...
I wonder what Washington might be willing to give up for Volchenkov.... Getting Brooks Laich back (pipe dream) or a winger like Fleishmann along with Jeff Schultz would be hard to pass up.
Murray could then go out and try and replace Volchenkov at the deadline... Robidas or Hamhuis?
Out: Volchenkov, Lee, 2nd, Shannon
In: Fleishmann, Schultz, Robidas/Hamhuis
Michalek Spezza Alfredsson
Foligno Fisher Cullen
Fleishmann Regin Kovalev
Ruutu Kelly Neil
Phillips Robidas/Hamhuis
Kuba Karlsson
Schultz Carkner
Campoli
Trading volchie makes sense now and for the future, we could get a good prospect with 2-4 d or top-6 potential and a 1st round pick. I'd personally be ecstatic with that. I do not want him to walk for nothing, especially in a year when we are not cup contenders, might as well help our chances of winning down the road. Just don't trade him for rental(s) PLEASE BM!!
pg
Trade Volchenkov/Lee to Wash for
Pothier/Carlson/1st
Then:
Cowen/WSH 1ST/Regin/Winchester
TO Dallas
Morrow/Robidas
Michalek/Spezza/Alfie
Morrow/Cullen/Kovalev
Foligno/Fisher/Neil
Ruutu/Kelly/Shannon
Phillips/Robidas
Kuba/Karlsson
Carkner/Pothier/Carlson/Campoli
I like it!
A-Train won't be moved now. He'll be moved as a sign and trade at the draft or not at all. It would be very bad timing for the team to ship out such a key guy. He has to be around for the stretch drive. The only reason to trade him right now would be if his salary demands are completely ridiculous like 4.5-5M+.
Like I said in the other thread, reboot our entire D for the most part. With spare parts and the return from trading Volchenkov, I think we could land Brent Burns.
Not sure why Wash is mentioned so often as a destination for Volchie. They won't be able to sign him under the cap. They are about 2M under the cap this year and will need to resign Backstom, Fleishman, Fehr, Schultz and others. The only large salary that will be let go is Theodore.
Wash is not likely to add players that command a significant salary.
PL
I'd really like to see Murray try to get Robidas. I am one of those who hope that Volchenkov gets traded. I'd much rather have a cheap solid dman like Carkner and an expansive offensive-minded dman than sign Volchenkov for that amount.
If he wants 3.5-4M I'd keep him at that price. Tough guy to replace and he's still pretty young. Don't discount how much better he makes Phillips. Phillips and A-Train make each other better. Split apart they are much less successful.
Murray will press and try to get a reasonable contract before the deadline. If A-Train is unreasonable than we gotta move him.
I'd expect though that no matter what happens we keep him and just do a sign and trade at the deadline if we can't get him to stay. I'd expect this March 3rd deadline will come too fast for them to get a contract done with all the other crap Murray has got to do. The deadline will come and go and this one will probably still be up in the air unless a great deal or great contract falls in Murray's lap.
If you trade Volchy -- make it to the West -- Hamhuis or Zidlicky or Robidas. Minnesota has Ottawa connections and they obviously would want Volchy.
I can't see Washington signing him... I don't think they will have the cap space. I think they have some of their top players to sign this year.
I hope it doesn't come down to that.. but we all know in the CAP era -- you can't keep all of your players together for a long period of time. Trading one of your top two defenseman is risky -- but it depends on who you get back -- it would have to be at least a top 3 or 4 at the very least + good prospect or a least a pick.
What is this obsession with Aaron Ward? Are you guys crazy?? He sucks!! He would add nothing to what we already have. Why don't we take Hal Gill off of Montreal's hands while we're at it!
There's only two players we should be targetting as free agent signings: Zidlicky and Robidas (with players going the other way obviously). I can live with Siedenberg if the price isn't too high but what's Murray's obsession with Carolina? Are we official deadline trading partners?
I'll be honest though, I'm from the "if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it" school. I don't want too much tinkering with this team right now.
Bye Bye Volchie
anon 5:15, I wish, but there is no way an unsigned Volchie will net us a top prospect of Carlson's calibre, not to mention a first round pick included. We will get a first rounder with a lower end prospect max. And Lee is just a spare part/throw-in at this point.
As for Volchie, trading him for lesser players at this point will leave a huge hole on our D heading into the playoffs. Keep him for the playoffs and try to sign him afterwards. If he leaves via UFA, what's the big concern?? We can just sign a UFA d-man of Volchie's calibre ourselves to fill the hole!! (like Z. Michalek)
Just got word the Caps may be about to make a deal, possibly with the Leafs.
Nothing to do with the Senators but something to watch for.
Anon @5:18
Washington is mentioned often because of the Russian connection, and I don't think that can be ignored. Not to mention the fact they've apparently been looking for a shutdown D for some time.
Washington has about $22.5M to spend next season. If the deal were say Volchenkov for Fleischmann and Schultz, they would have ample cap space to resign Volchenkov, Backstrom, Fehr and Morrison.
Don't forget, as long as Nylander is playing over seas his salary is off the cap.
Wonder what Minny would want for Burns...
Does anybody else think the acquisition of Grebeshkov means Hamhuis is more then likely on the move?
If Volchenkov leaves I will never be able to buy another jersey. I get a Yashin, he gets traded. I get a Lalime, he gets moved. Hossa, same thing. Then I get a Heatley, bring it back for a Volchenkov and Heatley asks for a trade a week later. Now Volchenkov might be gone?!?!
Man, can't believe that Volchie would want to leave Ottawa. That sucks.
JC,Think Ovie and Semin convinced Volchie to come and play for the Caps?
We better not lose him! Just doesn't feel right him being on another team..
UFA for UFA!!! Volchenkov for Z. Michalek!!!
James Ray
I would rather see Murray get Fehr.
I don't think George Mcphee is going to trade Fleischmann Eric Fehr makes more sense then Fleischmann.
I think Murray should go after a player who has some size and can score and is physical and Eric Fehr fits the bill.
Juan Pablo mind your own bussiness I make more sense then you and I post better comments so stop posting on here.
I know I am going to get flamed for this but I was thinking what if the Boston Bruins are interested in getting volchenkov I would like to see Murray get Blake Wheeler and a first round pick the Leafs one.
The trade could look like this.
To:Boston Bruins
Volchenkov
To:Ottawa Senators
Blake Wheeler
Tor 1st round draft pick 2010
Personally I would not want Murray to trade Volchenkov to Boston.
Why would Murray trade Volchenkov to the Crapitals?
We will have to beat them to come out of the East.
If Ottawa can hang on to #1 in the division, they will have home ice, and in theory a weaker 1st round opponent.
They very well could make it to the 2nd round. Maybe the 3rd...who knows. Anything can happen in the playoffs.
I'd rather keep Volchenkov for the playoffs and let him walk in the summer. Or sign him on the off season.
Murray has a history of signing guys he shouldn't (Neil, Kuba) and trading the ones he shouldn't though (Heatley, Eaves, etc...) so who knows what he'll do.
Surely it will be underwhelming and borderline disappointing, whatever it is.
haha anon 6:18 If Boston wanted to part with that pick and volch really didn't wanna sign a reasonable deal I'd do it for the pick. I love volch, and I understand this team really isn't going to do much without him this year. But no point in messing up the future for it.
If he does get traded tho, I think it only makes sense he goes to Wash/Chi. His expiring contract is so attractive to these teams. I really don't wanna see picks unless its projected extremely high. Because alfy won't be around much longer. Young is fine, picks are not. Whoever said Fehr and Carlson makes sense.
WILD SEND JOHNSSON, LEDDY TO BLACKHAWKS FOR BARKER
The Chicago Blackhawks have dealt defenceman Cam Barker to the Minnesota Wild for defenceman Kim Johnsson and 2009 first round pick, defenceman Nick Leddy.
The 23-year old Barker, who is the in the middle of the first year of his three-year, $9.25 million contract has recorded 4 goals and 10 assists in 51 games this season.
Barker, was one of the five players in Chicago whose qualifying offers did not arrive on time last summer. That led to a grievance being filed by the NHL Player's Association.
The result was that the Hawks gave Barker a more significant raise then they had to, if the qualifying offers were handled properly.
Since the Blackhawks already have Marian Hossa, Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Duncan Keith and Brian Campbell signed to big money, long-term deals, dealing away their commitment to Barker makes financial sense.
Johnsson, who has six goals and eight assists in 52 games this season is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.
Leddy has played 19 games with the University of Minnesota, posting 1 goal with 4 assists and 4 penalty minutes.
Annon 6:18, boston would never do that lol... if a deal seems really good to us, chances are the other GM does not have down syndrome and wont do the deal, put yourself in the other teams GM's shoes before you propose deals guys. Some other these trade proposals are embarrassing haha. Here is a realistic deal:
Burns to ottawa-2nd, kelly, lee
Hamhuis- 2nd, lee
Volche to caps for fehr and a 1st
Okay lets be real here and RELAX!!! Volchie makes 2.5 per year right now.. he's obvoiusly going to ask for more, somewhere around 3.25 (give or take)and we all know he's not worth that.. he's good for around 60 games per year and his "play" has slowly declined. so lets say that Murray has offered him an average of 2.7 per year on a sliding scale thats front end heavy... thats not too bad. but the problem are these agents that only want to suck the blood out of the team reguardless of what the player wants.. remember the Chris Neil situation last year.. the one difference.. and remember this.. Murray will NOT let volchie hit free agency.. he will get rid of him if he knows he cant be resigned without blowing the budget.
I think this is like a well played game of chess... and if Volchie actually wants to stay in ottawa.. then he will. Lee will be gone long before volchie
I would personnally love to see the following trade:
To Ottawa:
Smid + Penner
To Edmonton:
Cheechoo + Vol
That is a great idea, if you can get Edmonton to go for it, but why would they take on a pending UFA and an overpaid AHL'er?
I see Andrew Ladd is back reading SensChirp....I wonder when the organization will give Mike Brodeur a chance?
JoeDoggs
Just because volchenkov is a fan favourite doesnt mean he is worth what is being suggested on this sight! Pretty much everyone who has suggested a trade has way over-valued volchenkov. Keep in mind these teams risk him just being a rental.
Anon 6:18: really? Boston wont trade either wheeler or the pick individually for volchenkov!
Anon 6:38: closer, but fehr is on pace for 21 goals and 40 points (in 70 games) as a 24 year old making no money and is only in his second full season. We MIGHT be able to get him and I would love that trade. no way we would get the pick too.
Honestly, I would be super happy trading him for a late first round pick.
Why the hell do we keep talking about Smid?!?! He's 4/5/6 D who only has 9 points on one of the worst teams in the nhl... if Brian Lee got the same playing time as Smid does he'd have double the points. enough with this BS Smid talk...
K Pete...that's really old news. That happened last week.
Murray should consider Anton for the next 3 years, at around $200,000 less per year than Phillips, who should be earning the most as a seasoned long term defenseman (10years) ! If Anton wants more than Phillips, Murray has to trade him !
Not sure what Kuba earns, but Volchenkov is certainly worth more and for all we know, Kuba might be traded, due to young defensemen who will be promoted from Binghamton.
Robert Cyr
Robert,
Not to be mean but your post made no sense. Kuba makes more than Phillips, therefor we can't say he should make less than Phillips and more and Kuba.
While I agree he shouldn't make more than Phillips, rather equal or less. We must remember who his agent is, and almost guaranteed it will not be happening. BM sounded dejected in his interview when asked about Volch. If you'd like to listen here it is.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150129876015585&ref=mf
Cyr Kube makes more than Phillips.
Volchenkov will only be traded for players who would either replace him and/or help us now........believe it or not were going to make a push for the cup this year...we can beat any team in the east...and we need him, it would not make sense for murray to trade him for picks and/or prospects , maybe in the summer for his rights, which would make a lot more sense
I still think he'll end up resigned. That said, Murray is wise to listen to offers, and Murray is wise not to overpay for Volchenkov.
Anton is a nice player, a bonafide top 4 defender, a hard hitter, a great shot blocker, but he is NOT irreplaceable. I'd like to see him stay, but not at the cost of hamstringing the team into an unfairly large cap hit. Anything more than 3.5 avg per year is too much for a guy like him in my opinion. He could make more for a couple of years if he got the term, but I don't know that you want a d-man who plays Volchenkov's style locked in for 6-7 seasons.
Just remember last year, everyone thought Kuba would be traded, and Murray resigned him on deadline day. This could still get done.
If volchie doesnt sign, I highly doubt he gets traded b4 the end of the season (as much as I would like that to happen). Lets remember the pressure Murray is on to get us in the playoffs and to actually be competative. He won't likely risk the team unless he can get a top 4 D back as well as pick up another one via trade. I could see Volchie's rights being traded at the draft ... probably a second, or maybe first if we're lucky :)
You would have to believe that if Washington offers up Carlson or Alzner for Volchie, Murray must take that deal. (especially on/at 2pm Wednesday)
Cliff
(And no Fehr SF56!)
According to TSN.ca, the Flyers are in pursuit of Hamhuis.
I agree re: trying to pluck John Carlson from WAS.
He was very impressive for the US world jr. team.
Did anyone else notice him? What do you guys think abt him?
Realistically, what would WAS be willing to give up for Volchie?
I'd think prob. picks, prospects not part of their quest for the cup this year. To me, their window seems to be closing...
Mark Gandler, Volchenkov's agent, has presented Murray with an offer of 5 years at 5.5M per year with a NMC. They won't take a penny less than 4.5M per season.
Senators management decided a long time ago that they are comfortable letting A-Train walk away for nothing.
Can you imagine the backlash if ottawa let's go another d-man for nothing during the summer? There's no way that Murray let's him walk this summer. He either signs at the club's asking price or he can go play for a sunbelt team for 4-5 million per season.
Its ultimately Anton's choice to make but I think his agent will spoon feed him all the way to the bank.
Eric
Black terror, I think Kuba resigned in the summer.
Anon 7:57
I think the Capitals may trade Fehr to get the right piece for there playoff run.
I think if there were a deal to be had with Washington it would look like this.
TO:Washington Capitals
Volchenkov
TO:Ottawa Senators
Eric Fehr
John Carlson or Karl Alzner
Or the other deal would look like this.
TO:Washington Capitals
Volchenkov
TO:Ottawa Senators
Eric Fehr
1st round draft pick
If those numbers are correct, see you later Anton.
Anon 8:31
Murray can't let Volchenkov walk for nothing.
Paying Volchy more than $4M would be insane and would give us cap issues down the road.
If wat Anon@8:31 is accurate with his claims ...
HE MUST BE TRADED!!!!!!! Thats not even close to fair. Get whatever you can now and cut ur loses. I wouldnt even risk going all the way to the deadline.
ABSURD
I bet contract term is playing into this. As others have pointed out, V's style of play leads to injuries. Once he's had his UFA pay day is he likely to A) play the same style or B) stay healthy long enough to be worth the dollars he's asking for.
Tozs,
Sorry about my mistake on Kuba getting more than Phillips !
Kuba is therefore overpaid,and not as good as Phillips!
So Volchie must be paid less than both Kuba and Phillips, and if he balks,and wants more than Phillips, I say trade him .
Robert Cyr
I heard we may be getting Comrie back....I hope thats true!
He needs to finish off what he started back in 07 and win a cup here!
Go Sens Go!
It's kind of simple really. If we are doing a run this year we keep Volchie - what are we going to do, trade him one-for-one for a better rental? Good luck finding a partner for that trade. I we going to cash in the season and wait until next, trade him for pics and prospects. I think we should think of him as a rental anyway. Let him go in the summer if he wants too much.
Tim
Volchenkov for burns I would
Anon @ 8:31,
Gimme a break. You can't post numbers like that with no source, ANONYMOUSLY!
Where's this from?
And Andre, Kuba signed on the deadline day last year: March 4th, 2009.
If Murray does end up trading Volchie I hope he's smart enough to trade him to a west coast team.. LA maybe? (simmons?) anywho... the new tactic should be to trade Volchie and then re-aquire him in the off season!! lol
I have a volchie jersey for christ sakes!!!
Lot of dumb people here....
1) Gandler is not Volchenkov's agent. Grossman is.
2) Murray can't let tangible assets walk for nothing.
3)InurHome, Redden walked all on his own, the organization tried to trade him twice, and he used his NTC.
A lottery pick AND Wheeler (very solid top-6) for a rental Volchenkov? Wow. Talk about over valuing our players. You couldn't even get EITHER for volchenkov, let alone both. That Boston pick could be Seguin or Hall. They aren't trading it for ANYTHING.
And Andre, Kuba signed on the trade deadline.
For whoever mentioned it, the cap hit is the average of the contract: you can't "stagger it".
pg
Wow ANON who clearly isn't talking out of his ass due to the credibility our book it guy has built up for him, you really sound sure!
Ask either goalie who their favourite D-man is, and they'll tell you it's Volchenkov. We'll re-sign him.
Go Sens.
BTW - saw stuntman Stu at the USA/Finland Semi final. I was one of many people representing the Sens during the Olympics. It was easy to do, since the Sens have the same colours as team Canada.
Can people stop just posting ridiculous suggestions with nothing to even substantiate the possibility of their occurring. That kind of speculation is a real waste of time. The fact is, paying over 3.5 mil to a shutdown d man could very well cost us dearly down the road. If he demands too much, I think he has to be moved. It hurts me to say this because I love him to death, but we cannot let another key dman walk for nothing.
However, for those of you suggesting absurd trade scenarios I fear you're in for an unfortunate surprise. GM's don't just throw around 1st rounders and promising young players like they're monopoly money. Get Real.
No more than $3.5M/yr please. Front load it if you have to, Murray!
Honestly none of us can know how much money he wants or what is going to happen until the decision is made. We'd like to keep him for a reasonable price that's obvious. We're in a tough spot because we need him for our playoff run regardless. If Murray trades him he will only do it on a good deal for this team. Good in both future and right now.
I am hoping that Murray gets Kurtis Foster before the deadline.
Also if Murray gets Foster I think Murray would be able to resign him this summer.
Also I am hoping that Murray gets one of Eric Fehr or Andrew Ladd this summer.
I don't think Murray will be able to get one of them before the trade dealine. Murray might be able to get Fehr if he decides to trade Volchenkov to the Washington Capitals before the deadline so he won't lose Volchenkov for nothing to free angency. I am hoping that Murray does not trade Volchenkov before the deadline.
If Foster or Ward are all that Murray can come up with all the Dmen available, He is clearly not serious about winning anything. Sending down Cheechoo and all that money in the minors was done for a reason, so we can win!
We need a top 4 dman to do that. Not "has been" dmen, If that's all he comes up with, Melnyk was stupid to re-sign this guy.
Will people stop with Colby Armstrong - he's useless - he's a waste of a sweater!.
C'mon people!
Trade him for a prospect or pick that can replace Alfie, pick up Ward or similar over-the-hill pylon UFA as a stopgap for the rest of the season, and gamble that they'll find some legs for the next couple months. Then find a free agent in the summer, or look to the farm, depending on where development is on some of the young guys. As much as I like this team unless we're able to ride an incredibly hot goaltender, we're a few years away from a cup run, meaning we'll likely be doing it without Alfie...as much as that sucks.
Let's all hope that we have a full building tonight to welcome back our boys...
Playoffs here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Riaz
If we have to trade Volchenkov
trade to Nashville
for Hamhuis & Ryan Ellis
stop with the Foster crap - he's the same, if not worse than Schubert.
I can not see A-train going to Washington - Murray would not send him to our top competition for the Eastern title.
He's got to go west, and if its true that he wants to leave for more money elsewhere, I'll be the firs to boo him when he returns to Ottawa as a memeber of a visiting team.
You've got it good in Ottawa, and your dependance on Phillips will be obvious when you don't have him as a partner.
You know what. i think you keep Volchenkov even if he balks and signs elsewhere next year. keep him for the playoff run. If he leaves during the summer sign a free agent. That's it,that's all.
Trade Volch to the Blackhawks for Sharp - find a team to take Kelly - and trade for 2 d-men.
Should fit.
MURRAY BOOK IT!
Andrew Ladd anonymous guy is hilarious.
Wtfffffffff... we better not get jipped on my guy....... top d-man, pay the fuck up!!!!
I say move A-Train before Wed if you can get a good return if he decides not to re-sign. Easy as that, if not there is not much choice other than to let him walk or as others have said do a sign and trade before the draft.
As we all know D are worth a TON right now, so even though he is a UFA, we still may get some good trade offers, especially if they can trade and sign him right away.
Volchenkov to Washington for 1st and conditional 2nd
then flip the 1st to Minny for Schultz!
Anon 7:07: "People" aren't constantly bringing up Colby Armstrong. One person is. I can see how it's misleading what with the fact that he posts numerous time a day proposing bad trade ideas to bring his man-crushes within stalking distance (Fehr, Armstrong, Ladd). But all kidding aside, i'd love it if he were the Sens GM, apparently he could make it possible to trade a UFA Volchenkov for a Top-6 young forward with tons of potential & a Lottery pick.
Andrew Ladd is a very good player. He has not been given a chance. He could score 50+ goals if playing with Spezza.
Brian Murray must trade for Ladd if they want to win the cup.
Volchie has terrible foot-speed, doesn't move the puck all that well, and his lateral movement is shite. Don't get me wrong he does a lot very well, but he is NOT someone you overpay for. Not even close. Plus I'm thinking BM would like Karlsson to play with Phillips, I do anyhow, which would make the pairing of Kuba and Volch one of the slowest 2nd pairings in the league. Trade him if he won't accept our offer. Plus his value now is maybe at the highest it will ever be so BM should cash-in while he can.
The Andrew Ladd guy needs to stop copy pasting his posts and realizes he's wasting our time re-posting his love for Ladd every couple hours.
Black terror, agreed. He went by sensfan56 on another forum, and can easily be picked out by his unrelenting demands for Andrew Ladd and Colby Armstrong, and the fact that he can only express one thought per sentence.
I.E "I think the guy the senators should get is andrew ladd.
Andrew Ladd is from Chicago and is good.
Another player I would like Murray to get is Colby Armstrong.
If murray trades Volchenkov I would like to get back andrew Ladd and 7 first rounders."
etc, etc.
As for Johnny Holmes:
"JohnnyHolmes said...
Murray has a history of signing guys he shouldn't (Neil, Kuba) and trading the ones he shouldn't though (Heatley, Eaves, etc...) so who knows what he'll do.
Surely it will be underwhelming and borderline disappointing, whatever it is."
Well, Neil is extremely useful. I think 2 mill is exactly what he's worth. Kuba I will give you, but hey, at the time he looked solid as can be.
As for you other two examples, Heatley was not an option, and who gives a flying **** about Patrick Eaves? Isn't he Detroit's skate sharpener right now? Gimme a break.
"Surely", you have better examples than that to support your dissage.
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